DAMN THAT SOUNDS FAMILIAR
@reggieregg21 you hit on a interesting perspective when I was in Richmond and I never really thought about it that way until you brought it up. If the strike zone is at the nipple and below, and the hands are starting by the shoulders then you can only ever make a downward move to the baseball with the hands.
Here's where I think the disconnect is...most hitters, when they tell you that they're trying to make a downward attack on a baseball, they are typically talking about what they feel and they're not wrong because they're talking about what their hands are doing in the swing. What a lot of instructors have created in their narrative is this idea that they are actually swinging up. Here's the discrepancy between the two: one person is referring to their hands and the other person is referring to the bat. The bat does perform an upward arc but it's doesn't matter if you're trying to swing up or down...it just HAPPENS. This is why I rarely instruct my hitters that way. I only like to address things they have immediate control over (hands rather than the bat). It is important that we get crystal clear on what we hear or we will interpret the information incorrectly. I think that is a huge problem for instructors and players at every level and in every sport. Open your ears more than you open your mouth and this problem can be solved with ease.